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8 comments:
I couldn't vote for McCain in good conscience. I am not completely certain of his position on abortion, which would be an important issue for me.
He is a war-happy globalist, a tax-raiser, a man who holds a low view of the constitution, and he is essentially a Democrat with an "R" after his name.
And he says we may need to be in Iraq for 100 years. That is not victory. As long as our troops are in a country either we haven't won the war yet, or we are empire-building.
Hi Brooke! Welcome back.
Ahhh, about McCain, well Bryce is right, he appears to be just a Democrat with a big "R" after his name.
To vote for him or not is another question. It looks like it will be a McCain vs. Obama election. In which case, it means McCain has probably already lost. We'll have to wait and see when the time comes.
Bryce,
Thanks for your thoughts. You're right - McCain is pretty much a Democrat. But he is more pro-life than the Democratic candidates, and has voted fairly consistently in that area on the side of life. Although I don't like the idea of voting for him either, I'd rather have him in office than either Clinton or Obama so I may end up voting just to try and keep them out...and for once I might I agree with you on what you said about Iraq. It doesn't exactly seem like we would have won if we stayed there that long...
Jesse,
Thanks - Yeah, it is true that Obama could probably beat McCain. Plus with a lot of conservatives not voting at all with McCain in there (understandably) it seems like a pretty sure D victory. It will be interesting to see how it all turns out though. Thanks for commenting!
Until you can direct me to the Scripture that supports the view that Christians should be pragmatic and compromising with evil, for any purpose whatsoever (though I reject the argument that he is, indeed, the 'lesser' of two evils), I will not consider voting for McCain or any other 2 party monopoly candidates.
Hi Brooke,
I am glad that we agree on Iraq. But I definately wouldn't prefer McCain to Obama or Hillary. I would actually prefer Obama to McCain because then the conservatives would be in the fight. McCain would be given a free pass to continue and expand upon the globalist, socialist policies of Bush. At least with Obama people conservatives would fight him. The Clinton years were probably better than the Bush years.
I think that anyone who panders to the radical Hispanic agenda of ending American sovereignty and erasing the border should be labeled a traitor and enemy of America. McCain will be speaking at the La Raza organization (translated: "The Race", which is a pro-hispanic racist organization) that is associated with efforts for Mexico to take back the southwestern states from the U.S. No kidding, look it up. Karl Rove has spoken at their meetings also, and Bush is in the same boat--his border policies have been shamefully anti-American.
Bryce
Here are some links to visit that talk about La Raza:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/04/john-mccain-la-razas-voice-in-washington/
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=13863
Brooke,
I hope my comment didn't sound antagonistic, because it certainly wasn't meant that way.
I want to clarify that I think McCain and Obama would take our country in the same direction. I can see no meaningful difference, with the except of foreign policy. But I don't think the actual difference in their foriegn policy would be as great as they make it sound. They both believe wholeheartedly in the statist lie of a 'messianic' state (government) that solves every problem on the planet.
Bryce
Hey Bryce,
Thanks for commenting! Thank you for the info and links regarding La Raza. That was new information to me, and it is pretty disturbing. You're right - anyone who supports something like this isn't exactly trustworthy.
I'm not sure I quite understand how having someone like Obama - whom the conservatives would fight - would outweigh the danger of having said president sign a dangerous bill into law, or make an unwise foreign policy decision. Maybe you could explain that a little more...
Also, "no meaningful difference" – considering that…
-McCain is anti-abortion,
Obama is pro-choice.
-McCain is for gun rights,
Obama is against gun rights.
-McCain is way more pro- traditional marriage than Obama is. (Although not exclusively.)
- McCain is for prayer in schools.
Obama is against it.
-McCain is for the death penalty,
Obama is against it.
-McCain is for “parent’s choice” in education.
Obama is more in favor of the public education system, singularly.
-McCain voted against expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation.
I don’t know dogmatically how Obama stands on that issue – but I think I could make an educated guess.
(all of the above cited from www.ontheissues.org)
How can these differences fit into the statement regarding “no meaningful difference between the two”?
Let me be perfectly clear – there are a lot of things I don’t like about McCain. The fact that he’s not against stem cell research, not staunchly anti-same sex marriage unions, his views on the budget, and as you have already mentioned – immigration, not to mention his big-government tendencies. All of which are obviously MAJOR red flags. I know that’s a lot of things not to like about someone, but considering the other options, he does have SOME things in his favor. The things listed above – the things that Obama or Clinton are capable of, things McCain wouldn’t do – are things that I would be willing to cast a vote for McCain because of.
If McCain were elected it would still leave lots of work to do. Perhaps work that Reps and Senators could accomplish, maybe things that state governments could affect. But the job would be a little easier with a guy in office who was slightly in our favor than a president who emphatically is not. As far as foreign policy is concerned, as you know, I wouldn’t be so adamantly opposed to McCain’s foreign policy, but even as off-key as it is I would rather have a guy in office who has SOME experience in foreign policy than a man or women who has NO experience with it.
Anyway, thanks again for your thoughts, and on the point of immigration and the philosophy behind McCain’s foreign policy we agree – it is repulsive. It seems that our difference once again is that I think McCain is a lesser of the two evils – you don’t. =)
What are your thoughts to what I've said?
Thank you! =)
Brooke
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